> in the past for robotics applications I have used a Worm drive or > threaded rod Threaded rod gives you a lot of mechanical advantage, plus it stops the arm moving under external forces. My local hardware store has several diameters in metre lengths and it's not expensive. It could be used as an actuator on the non-road side of the pivot point Joe ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8899 - Release Date: 01/09/15 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .