> > > > ...By popular demand... > Popular enough. Looks easy [tm] :-). Gargoyles ever improving mindtracking has had low cost fast turn PCBs scattered around my browsing screens the last few weeks. May be time to see how they compare. I have a few of those sockets which I'd looked at somewhat aghast. Need to look again. I had those to see how they'd fit in a product that never happened. But still may. Issue there was more absolute space for the connector than any PCB issues Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .