Apparently the PIC18F2015 is too new for my old PicKit2 programmer. It's like this part just suddenly appeared overnight. Best wishes to all for the coming year. *"May your code be small as the acorn, strong as the oak, simple as the wheel, and swift as the wind." *Copied without permission from http://www.nateeag.com/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .