I'm sorry, I thought I was doing my part to arrest the decline. Sent from my phone > On Dec 11, 2014, at 03:10, Mike Snyder wrote: >=20 > waa waa I cannot have my way on the list so I will blame the admin and th= en > take my ball and go elsewhere - if you really withdrew why keep posting?= - > this hints to a personal agenda on your side and I am sure you will want = to > respond again but enough with the name calling already >=20 >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Vitaliy M wro= te: >>=20 >> So, the admin admits to being a troll. That's great. >>=20 >> FWIW, the reason I withdrew over the years, had much to do with the doub= le >> standard (inconsistent application of arbitrary rules) and the tyrannica= l >> tendencies of one of the admins (you can guess which one). >>=20 >> To have a thriving community, in both the virtual and the real realms, >> requires a high degree of tolerance of different viewpoints (by the PTB)= , >> transparency (of PTB's actions), and consistently applied rules. >>=20 >> Sent from my phone >>=20 >>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:34, Bob Blick wrote: >>>=20 >>> I guess the "kick me" sign I put on worked :) >>>=20 >>> Bob >>>=20 >>> Sent from my sliver of the hobby-sphere >>>=20 >>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Vitaliy M wrote: >>>> We've been using PICs since the founding of our company in 2002, and >>>> continue developing new designs using the new parts Microchip has been >>>> adding to their lineup. "Crappy" is not a word I would use to describe >>>> them. >>>>=20 >>>> "The world has moved on". Have you bothered to look at Microchip's >>>> financials and market share trends, lately? Or do you form your opinio= n >>>> solely on what you see in your sliver of the hobby-sphere? >>>>=20 >>>> http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Financials?s=3DMCHP:= NSQ >> http://www.microchip.com/investor/Pressrelease/MCHP%20Investor%20Present= ation.060313.pdf >>>>=20 >>>> Microchip came out of the recession stronger than other companies, and >> it >>>> was no accident. Steve Sanghi had a plan for dealing with the crisis (= he >>>> started his career at Microchip, dealing with a major crisis, and wrot= e >> a >>>> book on it), before it happened, and unlike the rest of the industry, >>>> they avoided layoffs. Read about it, in this excellent EEWeb interview= : >>>>=20 >>>> http://issuu.com/eeweb/docs/pulse_volume_96 >>>>=20 >>>> It is odd to hear so much PIC-bashing unsupported by facts, from a guy >>>> who fought tooth and nail to become a "PIC"List admin. May I suggest y= ou >>>> consider stepping down, and leave the reigns in the hands of those who >>>> are more enthusiastic about the technology? >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my phone >>>>=20 >>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 08:34, Bob Blick wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> If one must have a reason, the one I see is that PICs are crappy >>>>> microprocessors and Microchip has no idea how to put together a >> coherent >>>>> line of parts. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Just comparing forums, the Piclist, 43oh, and avrfreaks, it's easy to >>>>> see that Atmel makes the most popular micros of the three. Microchip >> may >>>>> sell a lot of parts but they are (relatively) no fun to use. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I don't design with PICs anymore. The world has moved on. And >>>>> Microchip's new offerings aren't as good as those from other vendors. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Bob >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014, at 02:46 AM, RussellMc wrote: >>>>>> " ... Russell is actually more responsible than any other single >> person >>>>>> for >>>>>> the decline of the PIClist. Look at the volume over time, particular= ly >>>>>> noting when Russell became a admin. ... Olin Lathrop". >>>>>> Elsewhere. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> So. >>>>>> Now you know. >>>>>> Apparently. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> R >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web >>>=20 >>> -- >>> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >>> View/change your membership options at >>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .