I guess the "kick me" sign I put on worked :)

Bob

Sent from my sliver of the hobby-sphere

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Vitaliy M wrote:
> We've been using PICs since the founding of our company in 2002, and
> continue developing new designs using the new parts Microchip has been
> adding to their lineup. "Crappy" is not a word I would use to describe
> them.
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> "The world has moved on". Have you bothered to look at Microchip's
> financials and market share trends, lately? Or do you form your opinion
> solely on what you see in your sliver of the hobby-sphere?
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> http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Financials?s=3DMCHP:NSQ
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> http://www.microchip.com/investor/Pressrelease/MCHP%20Investor%20Presenta=
tion.060313.pdf
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> Microchip came out of the recession stronger than other companies, and it
> was no accident. Steve Sanghi had a plan for dealing with the crisis (he
> started his career at Microchip, dealing with a major crisis, and wrote a
> book on it), before it happened, and unlike the rest of the industry,
> they avoided layoffs. Read about it, in this excellent EEWeb interview:
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> http://issuu.com/eeweb/docs/pulse_volume_96
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> It is odd to hear so much PIC-bashing unsupported by facts, from a guy
> who fought tooth and nail to become a "PIC"List admin. May I suggest you
> consider stepping down, and leave the reigns in the hands of those who
> are more enthusiastic about the technology?
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> Sent from my phone
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> > On Dec 9, 2014, at 08:34, Bob Blick <bobblick@ftml.net> wrote:
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> > If one must have a reason, the one I see is that PICs are crappy
> > microprocessors and Microchip has no idea how to put together a coheren=
t
> > line of parts.
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> > Just comparing forums, the Piclist, 43oh, and avrfreaks, it's easy to
> > see that Atmel makes the most popular micros of the three. Microchip ma=
y
> > sell a lot of parts but they are (relatively) no fun to use.
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> > I don't design with PICs anymore. The world has moved on. And
> > Microchip's new offerings aren't as good as those from other vendors.
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> > Bob
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> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014, at 02:46 AM, RussellMc wrote:
> >> " ... Russell is actually more responsible than any other single perso=
n
> >> for
> >> the decline of the PIClist. Look at the volume over time, particularly
> >> noting when Russell became a <sic> admin.   ... Olin Lathrop".=20
> >> Elsewhere.
> >>=20
> >> So.
> >> Now you know.
> >> Apparently.
> >>=20
> >>           R


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