> I don't do much work with PICs any more. I still do, and my day is filled up enough that I don't need to be joining other forums > will now simply grab an Arduino which provides a greater level of > hand holding and more instant gratification >From my experience in the one other forum I belong to (mostly high school students) that is quite true. Modern micros are so fast and featured (even handling video, music etc) that they can be used as the core of a system that performs acceptably without the user needing to look past high-level language to get what they want I've tried to demonstrate assembler to them. Not interested. Too hard Meh Joe ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4235/8707 - Release Date: 12/09/14 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .