I find it hard to believe that the decline of a list could be due to one=20 person, just a few people. Personally, my participation dropped off=20 because as I got to know PICs more and more, developed my business more=20 and more, and hence became more administrative. Still using PICs, and=20 even more so now, but some of the development has been pushed off to=20 others. As I learned more, I obviously asked less questions. There are=20 always people coming and going on lists, and I feel that the ones=20 expected to come in haven't been doing so, as it seems from my robotics=20 activities and other clubs that the Arduino has become the noob platform=20 of choice. On 12/9/2014 8:27 AM, RussellMc wrote: >> >>>> Well, I never saw the message Russell is quoting here >>> Me neither >> >> http://meta.electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/3997/how-can-we-impr= ove-the-manner-in-which-poor-questions-are-dealt-with >> >> The comment has probably been removed. >> >> It's still there. > It's a comment on Nick's question starting "One week is too long ..." > > FWIW, it's a matter of fact and record that most people commenting > 'against' my suggestions re how to treat beginners have no clue and no > experience of what process the new poster experiences, how it appears to > them and the difficulty they have overcoming a "closed" question. > > I have worked offlist with several new posters on that 'list' to help the= m > overcome the bad reactions to their first questions and so have a good id= ea > of how it can appear 'from the other side'. > In many cases the OP does not use English as their first language. > A major problem, invisible to those who have it, is that some > > people (who may be highly "intelligent" and capable in their sphere of > expertise) *seem to have *an extremely low ability to understand anything > not written in a manner which they are highly familiar with. A question c= an > make good sense, be logical, be a good question in its own right and be > worded in unusual but entirely acceptable English, but meet with opprobri= um > and incomprehension by the linguistically strait-jacketed ones. As many o= f > these also have question closing power the result is predictable. If I wa= s > not giving such people the strong benefit of the doubt I'd suspect that > more than a few are not quite as incapable as they pretend to be but have > "racist leanings". > > > > Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .