> > > >> Well, I never saw the message Russell is quoting here > > > > Me neither > > > http://meta.electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/3997/how-can-we-impro= ve-the-manner-in-which-poor-questions-are-dealt-with > > The comment has probably been removed. > > It's still there. It's a comment on Nick's question starting "One week is too long ..." FWIW, it's a matter of fact and record that most people commenting 'against' my suggestions re how to treat beginners have no clue and no experience of what process the new poster experiences, how it appears to them and the difficulty they have overcoming a "closed" question. I have worked offlist with several new posters on that 'list' to help them overcome the bad reactions to their first questions and so have a good idea of how it can appear 'from the other side'. In many cases the OP does not use English as their first language. A major problem, invisible to those who have it, is that some people (who may be highly "intelligent" and capable in their sphere of expertise) *seem to have *an extremely low ability to understand anything not written in a manner which they are highly familiar with. A question can make good sense, be logical, be a good question in its own right and be worded in unusual but entirely acceptable English, but meet with opprobrium and incomprehension by the linguistically strait-jacketed ones. As many of these also have question closing power the result is predictable. If I was not giving such people the strong benefit of the doubt I'd suspect that more than a few are not quite as incapable as they pretend to be but have "racist leanings". Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .