Hi. I happend to come across a reel of surplus PIC12F683-I/SN. These was factory programmed with a custom application. They are not locked and they reprogram just fine (tested with PICkit2). Apart from the factory programming, they are "factory new". Surplus from a swedish electronics manufacturer. No chinese fakes here... Auctioned on eBay 20 at a time. $2 shipping world-wide. http://www.ebay.com/itm/171563098031 My other items: http://www.ebay.com/sch/st-a-d-03/m.html Regards, Jan-Erik --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .