30+kV diode/capacitor ladder tied into electrodes on the seat with a=20 small saline pump to wet the seat (After plonking their rear down and=20 attempting to drive)? CS gas tablet in heated chamber that tied onto the face level vents and=20 turn on that and the blower at the same time? You could go all South African and have propane flames shoot out from=20 the dash... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_%28flamethrower%29 "The Blaster (also called the "BMW Flamethrower") was a 1998 invention=20 by South African inventor Charl Fourie designed to provide a defence=20 against carjackings. The invention came in response to the increasingly severe violent crime=20 situation in South Africa" No, I've never *thought* about car thief counter measures before :) There is/was a TV programme in the US that was called 'Bait Car' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_Car_%28TV_Series%29 On 11/18/2014 6:17 PM, Robert Dvoracek wrote: >> I want to build a DIY Puffer HoneyTrap. In my neighborhood ( it is cold>= outside ) 5 Puffers have been stolen this week.> > A Puffer is a car runni= ng unattended during cold weather. The exhaust is> visible and a car thief = grabs the car. > =20 > open the door and /or gets in, you got him! Trapping him in the car i= s a bad idea unless you have a car you don't mind having the window(s) brok= en out. =09 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .