Thanks rich, I can imagine from your explaination that there's many stories of people driving of without unplugging first. And wrt the plugs I take it from the description it is what I know as a welch or core plug that are used to plug the holes that the moulding sand is poured out of. Cheers Justin > There is another type that is inserted in to the engine block in > place of what we Americans call a freeze plug. I believe you folks call > it a soft plug. Again you plug it in at night and it will keep the > coolant at about freezing in 30 or 40 degree f below zero temperatures. > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .