I plan to use an older car. It will still be attractive=20 since the cars are used for =93joy riding=94 and committing other crimes. Gus On 2014m11d19, at 13:31, KPL wrote: Isn't it better to install electric block heaters, like it is done in Sweden or Finland, for example? Instead of burning fuel for hours, and smelling byproducts all the time. Actually it depends on what kind of car you are talking about, it is a huge difference if it's an old carburetted motor, or a newer one, with "drive by wire" setup, where throttle is turned by a servo, then all you need is to block sensor at gas pedal. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:25 AM, NOPE9 YES wrote: > To clarify my request=85=85 > I am not interested in harming the thief , > grappling with the thief. I want to > obtain evidence and then proceed. > Gus in Denver >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2014m11d18, at 14:42, NOPE9 YES wrote: >=20 > I want to build a DIY Puffer HoneyTrap. In my > neighborhood ( it is cold outside ) 5 Puffers > have been stolen this week. >=20 > A Puffer is a car running unattended during cold > weather. The exhaust is visible and a car thief > grabs the car. >=20 > I plan to use an older car so that I am not upset > if the thief bangs on the car. I plan to use long > distance video recording or local, remote control > video to capture the action. >=20 > What is the best/easiest way to disable a running > car ? The key will be in the ignition as I know of > no easy way to leave a car running without the key. > Maybe there is a way to make it look like exhaust > is exiting the tailpipe. Then the car will not be > running and will have =93fake=94 key in the ignition. >=20 > I look forward to creative suggestions. >=20 > Gus in Denver >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 KPL --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist Joanne Yamaguchi Gus S. Calabrese =20 Cinternational.com/ WFT Electronics=20 Denver, CO 720 362 1866 biz@Cinternational.com Dent the universe (SJ) Hurray for #OpenIP , #IPPParadigm All ideas, text, drawings and audio , that are created by Cinternational.co= m ( or it's agents ) that are included with this signature text are to be d= eemed to be released to the public domain as of the date of this communicat= ion . =20 This DOES NOT include information from 3rd parties supplied to Cinternation= al. This DOES NOT include any information accidently included that belongs= to another party. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .