> I am not interested in harming the thief You'll have to aware of harming others too Adding a timer, eg to disable the ignition after a period long enough for the car to get on the road, would have to be done so that the car comes to rest where it can do no harm. For example you wouldn't want it to stop dead in the middle of the intersection at the end of your street or lose power steering in an awkward or dangerous place Perhaps an IR / laser beam across the driveway, or short-range RF, that triggers an alarm / recorder in your house and/or passes a control signal to something in the car Joe ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4213/8591 - Release Date: 11/18/14 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .