The serial port being used here was initially just a couple pins on the=20 PCB that I was using with a serial LCD for diagnosis. When the board=20 was enclosed & mounted to the truck (for on-road testing), I routed=20 those wires to two spare pins so the LCD could be outside the enclosure=20 when I needed to test. Later the customer wanted to change some=20 parameters (in EEPROM) so that port became the interface to the laptop. =20 Hence the external RS232-to-TTL converter. The next revision of this=20 PCB will have a second MAX232 on board for this purpose. Cheers, -Neil. On 11/13/2014 11:46 AM, alan.b.pearce@stfc.ac.uk wrote: > And also begs the question, why isn't the RS232 conversion permanently in= the box? > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .