At 11:54 AM 11/14/2014, you wrote: >I should have said obsolescent rather than obsolete - not recommended for >new designs. Not to pick on you or anything but does anything *from Microchip* actually say it's "not recommended for new designs"? I don't see anything and it shows up in their selection guide as a full production part. Note that your distributor dropped the DIP part but not the SMT-packaged PIC16F87, which is probably a sign of the times. As long as the die is stil= l being made in volume the DIP part will probably still be available, at leas= t from Microchip, but almost everyone should be using SMT on new designs these days. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .