=20 > Whist I am the leading exponent of the "if the job hasn't changed why > change the tools" paradigm I still worry about future availabiity Sensible, although they still sell the F84, and that's the second PIC I worked with (after chipping the Playstation 1 with 12C508s) Joe ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4213/8572 - Release Date: 11/14/14 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .