We've got a car full of them http://users.adam.com.au/marick/=20 http://www.evalbum.com/3765 It has travelled 40000 Km on these cells. In a few short months it will have travelled more EV Kms than petrol. We have logged every charge with distance travelled over 3 years if you=20 want any long term data. Our second cheap charger has recently failed, the new 2Kw charger puts=20 50Km of energy back in 3.3 hours. Every cell has its own PIC12F683 monitoring the voltage ready to turn on=20 a small load when charging and alarms for over voltage and under voltage=20 you are welcome to the details and code. The Larger LiFePO4 cells are=20 very robust, but don't discharge them too far they will go to 0v and=20 stay there - < ask me how I know /> They gas when flat and that insulates the plates one remedy is=20 compression. You do not float charge, I think it is a plating problem=20 but that's just a guess on my part. One of the other discussions on this list suggested Lithium cells are=20 only "happy" when being charged or discharged not idle at any level. I=20 have seen it documented that if you are storing them 80% of full charge=20 is the best. I have been meaning to contribute to this topic but that annoying=20 problem with the ARM processor has taken all my time. Trevor > What? > No users of Lithium Ferro Phosphate "12V" batteries? > Winston / Sinopoly / Thundersky / CAL / GBS / GWL / BYD / A123 ... > > No ebikers / mobile homes / self sufficiency ... aficionados? > > LiFePO4 is more cost effective whole-of-life than lead acid. > Knowing how to optimise this is my interest. > > Nobody else playing this game? --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .