On Sat, 2014-09-06 at 03:18 +0100, peter green wrote:

> I haven't used eagle myself, I tried kicad but I couldn't stand it, in=20
> particular the way it seemed to defy all normal UI conventions and=20
> didn't seem to have any way of selecting stuff to work on it required=20
> you to point at it continuously while doing stuff to it.

While I didn't find kicad to 'defy all normal UI conventions', there
were a few things that seemed so maddeningly convoluted that I just
couldn't like it.

--McD


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