Curious if anyone has abused 74AC series logic in a way I am suggesting. Gauges in a lot of automobile instrument clusters use small stepper motors with gear reduction. They are typically four wire types with about 250 to 300 ohm windings. They'll work on 5 volts. 74AC logic is rated for 24 mA so this could be an OK match. And I can drive two gauges with one 74AC540. I know I can probably get away with driving directly off a PIC or AVR but I intend to use the ADC and it's harder to get good accuracy when driving heavy I/O loads. I don't intend to tri-state the '540 so I don't have to worry about latchup or add external diodes. I think 74AC is rated for a fair amount of body diode current anyway. So if anyone has experience doing bad things to 74AC logic, I'm all ears :) Too bad nobody makes a 74AC595. TPIC series is a little pricey. Bob --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .