Briefly revisiting this topic. I recently looked at a Kia Picanto which uses a small entirely electronic device to open the doors and enable the engine. The sales literature described it as a "Smart-Key". Damn good command of English, these Koreans have. :-) > __________________________________________ David C Brown 43 Bings Road Whaley Bridge High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .