David, I agree with you. The point I was trying to make is that over and=20 over if someone came up with a new way of doing something there would be=20 a lot of people that would ridicule this person until there was good=20 solid proof to the contrary. The self charger that puts out more than what comes in, I don't=20 think so. The propulsion system that doesn't use some type of reactant I=20 need more evidence and it is worth keeping an eye on. If it truly works=20 and it can be scaled up so that very massive items can be moved at a=20 reasonable velocity than that will be a game changer. We'll just have to=20 wait and see. Thanks, rich! P.S. There are still people who believe that the earth is flat and that=20 we never went to the moon. Thanks, rich! On 8/1/2014 1:44 AM, David C Brown wrote: > No, Richard. Whist many respectable scientists said "that the world is > flat, the bumble bee can't fly, > airplanes aren't possible, we never landed on the moon, the moon is made > out of green cheese, you'll suffocate if the train goes faster than > 30MPH", none of them continued to insist it once they had seen reliable a= nd > repeatable demonstrations. > > > On 1 August 2014 04:55, Richard R. Pope wrote: > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .