So I am getting more confused=85..=20 =20 #1 This may or may not turn out to be a misunderstood phenomena. Several parties including NASA have said it looks real. Is this a correct understanding ? #2 If this provides a static force can it act as a bearing surface ? #3 If it were able to lift payload vertically at low velocity would it co= ntinue to move the payload out of the solar system ( until the AC extension= cord length was exceeded ) ? #4 There is no radiation emerging from the closed system. Is this correc= t ? Gus in Denver On 2014m07d31, at 19:45, RussellMc wrote: On 1 August 2014 13:32, Richard R. Pope wrote: > My question is, how big will the thing need to be to lift something > of practical size? Can the device be the same size as a man to lift the > person's mass? Hum, I wonder! >=20 They are talking about a microwave producer with power outputs of a few kW with liquid Hydrogen cooling (!) for the requisite super conductors to get thrusts in the tons range. One could guess something in the 10:1 lift to mass ratio should be doable (if it works at all). Note that power out is limited Power =3D F.V and F=3Dm.A considerations so while you cannot follow a traditional velocity path to orbit you can [notionally] rise vertically at VERY LOW velocities to orbital heights (above atmosphere) and take a rocket from there. If it works It it works If ... Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .