> a breadboard right now and they are terrible about having a lot > of stray capacitance. It probably won't run until I get it built on > to a regular circuit board Can't say I've had any particular problems with crystals and bread boarding using recommended capacitors, grounding and bypassing Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .