Joe gave up too easily. Still live at 1320 on August 1st NZT >From a friend - this may explain things: It looks as if they filter the e-mails and reject any that are for places outside their sphere of interest. Attempts using local .co.nz e-mail addresses always fail - a blank submission form is just re-presented and no e-mail is received. Attempts using @gmail.com e-mail adressed work fine - and I now have two activation codes. I look forward to having a play with the software. R --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .