Russell, I have to agree. This is perpetual motion and that violates the=20 basic laws of thermodynamics. Yes, we are surrounded by energy and we=20 can harvest that energy but the amount that can be harvested is very=20 limited. Even trying to get enough power for a light bulb is very=20 difficult. Keeping a battery charged and supplying enough power to run a=20 motorcycle with a person on it would be impossible. Also energy recovery during coasting and braking is a real and=20 achievable goal but you can't recover 100% let lone recover 100%+. Some=20 percent of power will be loss to heat caused by friction with the air,=20 friction in the bearings, friction at the tire and road interface,=20 resistance in the wiring, and resistance in the batteries. An 80% total=20 efficiency rating is probably being conservative. It is probably closer=20 to 50%. Thanks, rich! On 7/31/2014 12:41 PM, RussellMc wrote: >> Self-Sustainable Battery Charger?* >> * http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html > I'm usually careful to be polite about such 'over-unity' claims and I try > hard to keep an open mind and leave opportunity to discover new things. > > However, in this case they have a very well founded product, they make ve= ry > specific claims, they have working hardware exhibited at shows, they have > firm release dates for a range of products, and their web site contains > material providing outlines of the underlying physics behind their > equipment. > > Here is the Jetson self charging electric scooter. (Cute name) > Add a second battery that you can switch to and take it easy and you coul= d > ride this around the world non-stop (the dry parts anyway). > Or just hook it up to a load and get around 200 Watt's continuous. > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .