GPS _may_ be possible, though I'm not convinced the necessary accuracy & resolution would be easier. Customer requirement is "wireless control link with proximity sensing to prevent operation when operator is less than X feet from unit" Expect X to be about 25-30 feet. That leaves a lot of really big questions about sensing and "what happens if..." -Denny On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Mike Hord wrote: > Outdoors? Could you use GPS? > > XBee modules can give you signal strength, but that really only provides > reliablity > information. In general, in fact, I don't think you'll be able to do bett= er > than > order-of-magnitude approximation, and not even that, indoors. Outdoors, > especially in a relatively isolated location, you may do better. > > Mike > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Denny Esterline > wrote: > > > Needed - wireless transceiver module for north american operation. I ha= ve > > control over both ends, so most any protocol is reasonably possible > > (Bluetooth, zigbee, wifi, etc) Likely a 16bit micro on both ends. > > Functionally I need bi-directional control and status information on th= e > > order of 100 bytes a second, desired latency under 50mS. > > Minimum range of 100 feet line of sight. (practical operating range 30-= 50 > > feet) > > Unit cost not too-too critical $50 ea ok, $20 ea better. > > Relatively small, has to fit into a hand held device about the size of = a > > DMM. > > Integrated antenna desirable. > > Power requirements not constraining - other parts of the system use 10'= s > of > > watts, shaving milliwats here somewhat pointless. > > Immediate demand perhaps 100 units, if all goes well, may need to scale > up > > to 1000 units a year. > > > > (This next bit is the difficult part) > > > > I need a way to measure the distance between two operating modules. > > I'm thinking I can get a reasonable approximation from signal strength = - > so > > I would need to be able to read signal strength information at least. > > Other option I'm chewing on is time of flight. It's at least > theoretically > > possible to query remote module and measure the time from query to > > response. Any digital signal processing is going to take vastly more ti= me > > than the signal takes to travel, so this may be challenging :-) I have > some > > thoughts, but this would be vastly easier if there were some supporting > > functions in the radio module. > > > > -Denny > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .