I am seeing another occurrence of something that I had seen before, where a given antenna design that should be workable, simply won't tune in a given design. Might you be exciting higher modes when certain dimensions allow. eg various portion trying to become 1/2 or 5/8 or ... wavelength or whatever under only some conditions. [I suspect that that question may be so simplistic in your application as to appear as ignorant as it is :-) ] R --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .