On 28 July 2014 14:04, John Gardner wrote: > ...Closest I done got... > > Suit yourself. That was geographically, and I'd have happily covered a few more states, if we'd been able to fit them into the available 2 weeks , done anything apart from drive, seen overall more interesting useful things, and not died of exhaustion. We more or less managed the latter, and that was 2 week into a 9 week tour. LA. Escondido (3 days) SD , Texicali Grand Canyon, Meteor Crater, Kingman, ..., Route 66, Boulder D (checkpoint & men with guns), Vegas (July 3rd & 4th), past the Drone Keepers (??? Airforce base), note Area 51 sizes, Amargosa (Baptist church !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)(Opera house !!!), Signs to places seen only in movies!, Dantes peak (view of BW 1`+ mile below, Bad Water (no sign of DP 1 +_ mile above, 50 C + yee ha (THE hottest spot on earth) (they have no moved the weather station to make the readings LESS hot)(long story), Stovepipe Wells (so it's real!),drive ... , Lone Pine (stay at The Dow [tm](John Wayne slept here (really))), Mono Lake, Yosemite upper, Yosemite lower, Tuolumne Meadows , ... drive ... , Altamont Pass (windmills !!!(Dead !!!)), SF (cold(cf Clemens comment on coldest winter)), Forest Gump - er - ... whatever ..., 101 Big Sur Hearst Castle, ... lovely road..., LA, xxx pier running, airport. Collapse. Men with guns ask for bag key and spread deliquescent coffee whitener all through electronics bag - but this not to be found until ~=3DParis and a source of much joy for many weeks to come (leading to eg dismantling DVD recorder in Belgian camp ground's execrable toilet to try to make functional after white powder clogged the works. 2 weeks. If we could have humanly added Texas we may have. Clemens was out of place in the 19th Century, > IMHO - Unimpressed by the racial nonsense of the Age, for > instance. > Toddling a little towards the edge, perhaps: That may be, perhaps, but my long time unquestioning liking of him generally only grew towards disliking was perhaps catalysed by his racist and (I only now know) dangerously inaccurate portrayal of a people and their country in an immensely unfavourable light - his material since being often quoted by those who would wish to believe his malignities as covering all the necessary facts to support an odious outcome. It may well have made no difference,but, one might argue that hundreds to thousands of several nationalities have died in the past few weeks, almost all very sadly (and I include the brave souls sent as part of their bounden duty to a sad fate as part of the process) as a perhaps partial consequence of Clemens input. If anyone has got this far and made any sense of the above and wish to discuss it in with me any detail they may wish to do so offline. I'm not saying it is impossible to so so equitably online, and I'd be happy to do so BUT the odds of it being possible are so close to zero its unlikely to be worth the effort. R --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .