No. The glass is 100% over-specified,. :-) On 27 July 2014 19:06, NOPE9 YES wrote: > Is the glass 50% full , 50% empty , or is our measuring stick broken ? > Somebody somewhare in Denver > > > > On 2014m07d27, at 1:21, Sean Breheny wrote: > > > > Percent is just a different way of writing numbers, wherein you take th= e > > number and multiply by 100. No more, no less.You could call regular > numbers > > "per unum" if you wanted. There is also "per mille" meaning a number > times > > 1000. I so agree with you that it is super annoying when people say > things > > like "I am going to give 110% of my effort!" But the numerator of a > > fraction is not always a part of the denominator. If I have $10 in my > bank > > account, I can have $100 tomorrow, and my account has experienced a 9 > times > > increase (or a 900 percent increase, or a 9000 per mille increase). > > > > Rich suggested that my interpretation makes no sense because two > successive > > 100% increases result in a quadrupling, whereas I was suggesting that a > > 200% increase is a tripling. There is no contradiction here - the key > thing > > is that Rich is assuming SUCCESSIVE increases - the second 100% increas= e > > has a different basis or denominator than the first. That means that tw= o > > successive 100% increases are NOT the same as a single 200% increase. > > > > If it were defined as you stated, Rich (i.e., if 200% implied two > > successive 100% increases and was therefore a 3x increase or 4x the > > original value), then how would you define a 150% increase? And what > would > > be the connection between percentage increase and percentage of a part > of a > > whole? In other words, if a 50% increase is not multiplying by 1.5, the= n > > why is 50% of something, half? > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 2:54 AM, cdb wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:17:20 -0600, NOPE9 YES wrote: > >> :: The phrase " our business increased 200% " > >> > >> Please don't start me on my philosophical maths rant :) > >> > >> In no way can there be 200% or any other greater than 100% it is like > >> saying we increase the number of cakes by 24/8ths. 100% is the maximum > >> percentage =3D per 100ths - we can however have a doubling or two time= s or > >> twice the amount etc etc. > >> > >> I just now I will lose this argument even though I'm pretty sure that > from > >> a purest point of view I am correct. In fact my arrogance tells me I a= m > >> 100% correct or is that 250% correct if there were two of me? > >> > >> Colin > >> -- > >> cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 27/07/2014 > >> > >> Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk > >> > >> Hosted by: www.justhost.com.au > >> > >> > >> This email is to be considered private if addressed to a named > individual > >> or Personnel Department, and public if addressed to a blog, forum or > news > >> article. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > >> View/change your membership options at > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > >> > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 __________________________________________ David C Brown 43 Bings Road Whaley Bridge High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .