> for every customer that complained there were 9 others that didn't That is partly my problem with some products. If the product is cheap enough then some (many ?) people might consider chasing a refund not worth the effort. Gave the product a go and either it went in the bin or in the cupboard. Of course the seller still has the money either way. A company saying that they have very few returns is not a true measure of how satisfied customers are. "100,000 customers can't be wrong". Well, yes they can if they were misled Consumer protection laws are only meaningful to the sellers if people use them David's PEMF device may well be in the "murky" category. What works in the lab or in a hospital might not be anywhere as effective when scaled down. You're unlikely to see a "Home MRI" any time soon for example. iHeal *should* be able to supply test results. However, if they aren't making any specific medical claims perhaps they aren't obliged to, and are quite happy to let the odd skeptical potential customer slip away. My experience with confronting companies is that they may be rogues but are not entirely stupid. They know how closely they can sail to the wind. I caught them out out when their advertising went well and truly, deliberately and persistently, over the line "Lose up to 10lbs". Not untrue. But an ounce is "up to 10lbs" You mentioned the magnetic fuel line enhancer. It is demonstrably a piece of rubbish but it still sells. There are so many variables for fuel useage that the average driver would have no idea whether it works or not, but they hope that it does. And hey it's cheap enough to just bin if it doesn't work. What's $10 these days ? Mythbusters proved it wrong ? Never heard of them With the PEMF device, the customer should not have to do their own trial. iHeal should be able to tell a particular customer how (in) effective thei product will be. Of course, they won't or can't Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .