> IVP and all, > Do you remember the magnet on the fuel line trick? Yes, I had them withdrawn from sale in NZ by a particular retailer I have an Advertising Standards ruling in my favour about claims made for a magnetic product, meaning they can't advertise in a particular (useful to them) way ever again Currently going after another They just piss me off. It's not necessarily that they don't work at all, it's the hyperbolic, or even untrue, language describing meagre capabilities. It sucks customers in to buying products for which "proven effectiveness" is murky at best, outright lying at worst [cough] $600/m speaker cables Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .