Mag amps were still in the inventory when I was a young serviceman - And had been for quite a while; for instance WW2 SCR-584 (radar) directed AAA employed them as servo amplifiers, IIRC. The Navy used them extensively afloat, for everything from gun-laying to nuclear reactor control circuitry, because of their inherent high reliability. High fun-to-play-with factor, too... :) --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .