Joe, Remember the conductivity of the ground is very dependent upon the=20 amount moisture in the ground. Very dry soil with no iron in it is a=20 very poor conductor. Our ground here has a lot of moisture in it and it=20 also has a pretty high iron content. So in most cases a single eight=20 foot copper rod will work fine. Two reasons for bonding the water pipe to the ground wire and the=20 breaker box is that one it helps with the ground connection to earth and=20 two it insures that the water pipe and the house ground are at the same=20 potential. If the water line is made out of plastic bonding is not required= .. There is a ground wire running on the poles that deliver power to=20 our homes but it is not directly connected to the house. There is a drop=20 line that runs down the pole and it is connected to a ground rod that is=20 driven in to the ground. The transformers supplying power to our houses=20 is a single phase unit that drops the primary power to a split single=20 phase 240 volt secondary going to the house with the neutral connected=20 as a center tapped lead. This gives 120 volts from each hot wire to=20 neutral and 240 volts across the two hot lines. The standard installation is now 200 amps but there are still a lot=20 of 100 amp units out there and a few 60 amp units. In fact there is=20 still a hand full of 40 amp services but they are very rare now. When I upgraded my house I had a 500 amp service. There was a 200=20 amp GP service in the main house, a 200 amp GP service in extension of=20 the house, and a 100 amp heater - air conditioning service. Thanks, rich! On 7/12/2014 12:47 AM, IVP wrote: >> In the US the ground wire is bonded to at least one copper rod that >> is driven into the ground on the outside of the house > My NZ-registered nephew tells me that here they are considering or > now earthing at the distribution transformer, and so each house will > need an earth wire as well as the single-phase pair. Apparently "NZ > earth is not good" > > Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .