It's been common practice to anytime a copper water pipe is near to use=20 it as a ground. Therefore, all the copper pipe is tied together, used to=20 be the water service pipe (to street) and meter were copper. brass,=20 etc., and it was used as the ground rod, but with the advent of=20 plastics, generally it's good practice to put a #4 copper wire across=20 the meter if both sides are copper. But with all the plastic tubing and=20 accessories it's hard to say what's proper. My power company required the meter ground and at the service=20 disconnect, since I don't have a ground wire between the two. All I have=20 between the meter and service disconnect is 2 hot 220 volt and a neutral=20 in plastic conduit, which is all the bring from the pole. The ground at=20 the meter, and service disconnect serves protection if a hot would=20 energize something that's connected (grounded) by either opening the=20 pole fuse or one of the house breakers. This is in Northern Ohio, USA.=20 My 12.5kw standby generator is grounded back to the service disconnect=20 panel to the house ground rod. Our 220 volt service is the only one on the pole transformer to 12.5KV=20 ?? with a fuse to one hot wire and a ground wire that is grounded at=20 every pole. On 7/11/2014 6:36 PM, Robert Dvoracek wrote: >> Sure about that? I don't have my NFPA book here, but when I wired my hou= se some 12 years ago, I was required to use a grounding rod next to my mete= r/main and then another ground bond wire back to my copper water pipe, unde= r the PRV. Yeah I remember that one because the inspector made me wrap gree= n tap around the black wire to indicate its ground. > While I cannot attest to the national electrical code, as I am not an ele= ctrician, they have been tied together in every breaker panel I have ever h= ad the cover off of. > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .