On 10 Jul 2014 at 0:20, peter green wrote: > I wonder if the trick shown at https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/114=20 > could work, by staggering the pins on a header footprint slightly you=20 > make the header a much firmer fit >=20 > They did it to make soldering the connector easier but I suspect that=20 > with the pins staggered like that it would make a good enough connection= =20 > for programming without being soldered. I just tried the staggered pin method, wroks well. On my target PCB I used = 6 x SIL=20 0.1" pitch pads with 0.9mm (0.035") holes offset alternately 0.05mm (0.002"= ) either=20 side of the centre line. Pins are a fairly loose fit, but ok for programmin= g. Next time I=20 might increase the offset, perhaps by as much as 100%. In this case the PCB= is=20 immersion gold finish, likewise mating with gold plated header pins. I'm su= re it would=20 still work acceptably well for solder plated PCB's, at least for production= =20 programming when everything is new and clean. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .