As Bob eluded - it's not a wire - it's a hose. One end of the hose is capped and the sensor on the other end watches for a pressure change. I've seen the dual-hose variety in at least two versions. in one the hoses are different lengths. Both hoses cross one lane and only one hose crosses the other. A wee bit'o math later and you can get individual values for each lane. The other version has both the same length. I don't have any real knowledge of the internals but after watching one get installed... they spent a fair amount of time controlling the distance between the hoses. I concluded they're doing something interesting with the time between the sensors. Easily enough should be direction (A before B or B before A) also reasonably possible would be vehicle speed. Either of those is subject to the occasional glitch when multiple vehicles pass over at about the same time. Considering the typical purpose of such measurements, I would expect even a 90% accuracy rate to be more than adequate and I suspect these much better than that. -Denny --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .