On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 04:19:26PM -0500, Richard R. Pope wrote: > Hello, > I have a lot of PICs on hand. So I will be using them for quite a=20 > while. I am disabled and being an electronic hobbyist helps to keep me=20 > busy. I only get out of my house about every ten days or so. I also live= =20 > in a town with about 10K people in it. There is one RS that is more=20 > interested in cell phones than electronics. The closet RS that has any=20 > reasonable selection of electronics is 30 miles away. Most of what I buy= =20 > in the way of electronics comes through mail order. I am also the=20 > president of our model railroad club. There is a new control system=20 > called cpNode that is designed to use the Arduino BBLeo board. This is a= =20 > special version of the Leonardo board. What types of PICs do you have? I thought I saw a post from you about model railroading. It reminded me of a FORTH compiler for the PIC specifically for doing development for model railroading. Here's a link to it: https://www.rfc1149.net/devel/picforth.html the notes on the page indicate that it's no longer maintained. But I thought it was an interesting idea. > I am hoping to find someone who has a spare copy of the CD that=20 > goes with the 2nd edition of this book. Myke put the code modules and=20 > other reference materials on this CD. I have searched the Internet and=20 > it doesn't exist anymore. Also the files for the 3rd edition are gone=20 > even though the book is on the internet. My first thought was simply to ask Myke himself. Some quick searching though indicates that he's been quite scarce lately. > There are so many books out there for teaching how to program both=20 > the Arduino and the PICs that it is very confusing. I am asking for=20 > opinions of what books might be best. C is much easier for me than=20 > assembly. Yes I am trying to learn the nuts and bolts and not just=20 > trying to accomplish a specific goal. Even though getting to that goal=20 > is the final step. There's sort of a catch-22 in this area for 2 reasons. The first is in general anyone who has reached a level of skill to properly evaluate the effacacy ofa document for teaching generally no longer has a need for that document. The second, and more telling item, is that the speed of development simply outstrips the speed of document production. In a lot of ways everything you are looking for is obsolete. > I apologize for irritating anyone. That is not my intention. I do a= =20 > a lot of googling and reading and my questions come either because of=20 > additional questions that are raised by what I have read and I can't=20 > find answers or I have found conflicting answers. I'm pretty sure this isn't directed specifically to me. I think Bob had a comment. My suggestion in this area, which is directly from the "How to ask questions the right way" that Bob referred you to, is that when you've done the research and you see conflicting information, then be specific about what it is that you read, and specific about the conflicting information. It serves both the purpose of giving a potential answerer context to you question, and shows that you have done the prep work so they don't have to. > Yes, I am stubborn and passionate but when I am wrong I will admit=20 > it even though sometimes it will not seem that way. I am very curious=20 > and I have no outlet for that curiosity except through my computers,=20 > electronics, model railroading, and science. If I irritate you please=20 > just tell me and tell me what I have done wrong. I will try to fix it.=20 > But I am human and I make mistakes. As are we all... > So back to the original question: Does anyone have a spare copy of=20 > the CD that goes with the 2nd edition of this book? On this I cannot help you. Instead I will ask what were the specifics of the code modules and references? Again IIRC this book is more than 5 years old. So the specific details of both the code and the references are probably too dated to be useful. However, the concepts behind them often live on in newer products and code. So if you can give up some specific examples of what you are looking for, then someone may be able to point you to a current reference that can help. I just flipped through the 3rd edition on Amazon and as I suspected most of the chips he referred to as proverbially older than dirt. So the specifics in the book are not nearly as important as the concepts. For example here is a complete tutorial programming the PIC24 family of chips in C: http://www.engscope.com/pic24-tutorial/ It has all the same basic concepts as Myke's book but uses a modern chip. As I stated earlier if you use a PIC24FV family part, such as the 28 pin PIC24FV32KA302 or PIC24FV16KA302 then you can run it at 5 volts from a breadboard. I do wish you luck with finding your CD... BAJ > Thanks, > rich! >=20 > On 7/3/2014 9:36 AM, Byron Jeff wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 02:46:18AM -0500, Richard R. Pope wrote: > >> Hello, > >> I have the book; Programming and Customizing PICmicro Controller= s > >> by Myke Predko but the CD was left out of the book. Does anyone have a > >> spare CD that goes with this book? There is some information on it tha= t > >> I am very curious about. Also is there a really good book out there > >> about programming the PICs in C? And what about a book for programming > >> >=20 > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 Byron A. Jeff Chair: Department of Computer Science and Information Technology College of Information and Mathematical Sciences Clayton State University http://faculty.clayton.edu/bjeff --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .