John, I'm doing hobby work and work for our model railroad club. I'm not=20 doing any production work per se. The model railroad stuff does need to=20 last and work correctly but I think that what I'm doing will be fine for=20 them. I have a lot of the 8 bit micros in stock so I use them. But I=20 will keep in mind what you have told me about the 16 bit parts. I'm=20 installing SDCC as I write this. Thanks, rich! On 7/2/2014 8:21 PM, John J. McDonough wrote: > On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 19:26 -0500, Richard R. Pope wrote: >> Bob, >> I couldn't afford Hi-tech's products and I really like Microchip's >> IDE. What puzzles me is that X worked fine six months ago. I did a clean >> install of XP and it still won't work. It locks up the whole computer. >> MPLAB 8.x works but it is crude compared to X. >> I'll have to look at UltraEdit. I wonder what I could use to do th= e >> compiling that is free. I like C much better than Assembly. > Take a look at SDCC. It is way better than it used to be. The PIC code > it produces tends to be kind of crappy, but I couldn't find a measurable > way to show it is more crappy than HiTech, and it uses standard file > formats. And it has multiple targets, so if you are also playing with > other architectures, it supports many, although generally not targets > that are already supported by gcc. > > BTW, if you are not making stuff for production, look at the 16 bit > parts. In small quantities the price is almost identical, even the > dsPICs, they are far more C friendly, and they are supported by gcc > which has become pretty much the gold standard of compilers. The one > down side is that they tend to be a little more power hungry. Pretty > much the only time I use the 8 bit parts anymore is for power sensitive > applications, which is a tiny part of what I do. > > --McD > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .