> As a hobbyist, I, too, winced at the price of the ICD3. But now that I b= it the > bullet I'm glad I did. At one stage Microchip were doing a trade in deal on ICD2 to ICD3, it was 2= 0% IIRC. Probably worth hitting up your local Microchip sales rep to see if= he can arrange anything. Don't forget that Microchip will also do a no-fault exchange for free on th= eir programmers. You need to raise a ticket and they will send you a replac= ement unit. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .