The characteristic impedance of a half wave radiator is infinite.=20 Matching it to a 50 ohm coax is not trivial. I used a commercial model=20 (through the windshield glass) on the 2 meter Amateur band from=20 1985-1994 that used a capacitive matching device that did very little.=20 The best I could do with it was to have a helper watch a field strength=20 meter (about half scale on the meter) while I transmitted and turned the=20 knob. It did not work all that bad, but it never performed as well as a=20 19" whip. It made no difference in the long run, since my son had his=20 Ham license by then I gave him the car, radio included, with more than=20 100,000 miles on it. The last time I saw it the antenna was still=20 installed and a friend still had it. The J-Pole is just about bullet proof as far as operation. Keeping it=20 from getting involved in mechanical damage may be another problem.=20 perhaps a break-away mount or at least a spring base. 50 watts on the=20 water to a J-Pole will definitely reach a little past the actual horizon! On 6/4/2014 5:25 PM, Joe McCauley wrote: > I'll have a look at that stuff John, thanks. Meanwhile both boats are out= on the water as of this evening so I brought a portable spectrum analyser = & repeated my tests. No difference,so I guess the presence of water does no= t matter. Both antennas have a loading coil built into the bottom. The ante= nna I've been testing with at home is a J pole type & as I said, it seems t= o work better. It is of course longer. I'll probably try that antenna in th= e boat next. > > Joe --=20 John Ferrell W8CCW "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness=94 Mark Twain --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .