> >I can't say I like the idea of giving money to scammers to gain the > >> privilege of pointing out their scams. >> > > I suspect that my $2's worth will have reduced their take by substantiall= y > more than that. Consider it a cost of community service. > > I have since pointed out that if they amend the graph axis to m/s from mp= h > (~=3D 11x reduction in power at any given wind speed) and apologise to th= eir > supporters now, they may save themselves a law suit or general > unpleasantness later on. Whether they have done so I know not > > ______________ > Update: Several of the 100 early innovator slots which had been fully subscribed became free. Others will take their place BUT at least a few people seem to have decided that the products they shell out $249 for should not break the laws of physics. They have not updated the graph - it still reads in mph. That would have been such a simple change to make. Their claims still break the laws of Physics. Other people have also commented separately and re what I said. They have addressed some minor questions that others have raised but ignored any comments that raised issues re the impossibility of their claims. They have exceeded their funding goals, so get their % of the money, and kickstarter get theirs. While some projects with quite complex goals offer to have product in people's hands very quickly, this project has a very long close to delivery time scale. April - Kickstarter Project starts June - Final Prototype July - Final Decision on manufacturing process September - Tooling, Tools, Trials and Fine Tuning November - Packaging Design 2015 January - First Kickstarter backers receive their Trinity February - Full Scale Production Note July to December - from final decision on manufacturing process to > (presumably) manufacturing. > About 6 months. With full scale production in February. > Kickstarter's laissez faire approach is known - but if the above does not disturb Kickstarter then Kickstarter should be disturbing other people by now. _____________ MAYBE they are just being FAR more cautious than most. But: We have been able to build a fully working prototype but it may require small changes for full scale manufacturing. We will face more challenges and unforeseen product issues as we get closer to manufacturing. We do not currently have a factory though we will explore every option and decide the best way to manufacture the product. If we decide to partner up with a manufacturer there may be delays should we need to change suppliers. Every step in our development will be carefully selected to make this product even more special for our backers. We may need to make a few changes in materials so the product can become more durable and scratch resistant. This can cause the final product to be slightly different from our original prototype. All of these factors can have an effect on shipping dates. We will work our hardest to achieve our set dates and deliver a product that both we and our backers are satisfied with. Is disturbing. > Russell > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .