I am with Russell on this. We're not saying that breakthrus can't happen; everyday I see unexpected=20 breakthrus, which make me glad that I am alive to see them. But most of these inventions came after many=20 years of hard work. Even Einstein's E=3Dmc2 was based on an earlier man's=20 work 30 years earlier., I was trained as an engineer, trained to be careful about concepts and=20 basic knowledge. Perpetual motion gadgets as a rule are simply not=20 possible, as there is no energy SOURCE. Look carefully at something, and=20 99,999 times out of 100,000 you can pick out the fundamental flaw. The first clue is that "faster than light" is not a well-settled concept. --Bob A On 6/2/2014 7:47 AM, Yigit Turgut wrote: > Spin information is being transferred (disturbance) FTL in the entangleme= nt > case and since everything is information I would say it is a good start > point but according to http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.0614 we know that it's n= ot > immediate, it is measurable ; at least 10000 times the speed of light. Bu= t > you know measuring and being precise at those scales is not an easy task.= .. > > In fact quantum physics is a tiny area in the energy gap from macroscopic= al > to the Y-Scale (aka planck scale). In this desert there is astonishing > physics waiting for us! That's why you wouldn't want to say strictly that > 'free energy doesn't exist'. Your current knowledge and understanding mig= ht > not let you imagine it's existence but this doesn't mean it really doesn'= t > exist. Anything is possible. > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 11:53 AM, IVP wrote: > >>> When we discover more physics we will for example unlock >>> faster than light and it will probably require small amounts of >>> 'energy' to operate because it's already a 'feature' of space itself >> It could be possible that there is something exploitable in quantum >> entanglement for example, a mechanism which appears to operate >> faster than light through an unknown medium or vector >> >> There was a story on our news tonight about the possibility of >> time travel, using a ring laser to supposedly distort space-time. >> Can't find the video I saw but the subject is on the web >> >> Even if that's not feasible, there could still be another as yet >> undiscovered energy application if it can allow access to parts >> of the structure of the Universe normally out of our reach >> >> Another story I read today about researchers using 300GW >> laser pulses to make a supernova by vapourising carbon. Who >> can tell where that physics will lead >> >> Joe >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .