Indeed, your lunch wasn't free at all. It cost you your time, and listening to the free energy drivel. ~ Bob Ammerman RAm Systems -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of RussellMc Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:51 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [OT]:: Patented perpetual motion machine - Ukranian patent > > > And still, after all these years and years and years and years there=20 > > is as yet no marketed 'free energy' device or system I'm aware of > BUT they can destroy TANSTAAFL! I got paid to attend a small meeting [rich clients and hopeful 'inventors' - I represented an associate of the client] and to report on a conversation about such a device. And I was given a free lunch while I was there. I was not aware of the exact nature of the device before I went or TANSTAAFL would have been safe. [Yes - I'm aware that TANSTAAFL was only violated within a closed and bounded system and that over all TANSTAAFL was conserved.] Russell -- http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/chang= e your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .