> > > And still, after all these years and years and years and years there is > > as yet no marketed 'free energy' device or system I'm aware of > BUT they can destroy TANSTAAFL! I got paid to attend a small meeting [rich clients and hopeful 'inventors' - I represented an associate of the client] and to report on a conversation about such a device. And I was given a free lunch while I was there. I was not aware of the exact nature of the device before I went or TANSTAAFL would have been safe. [Yes - I'm aware that TANSTAAFL was only violated within a closed and bounded system and that over all TANSTAAFL was conserved.] Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .