Say what? Decoupling - To take away, remove from, or provide a path to separate. IMHO and experience decoupling capacitors remove noise which is external of a device on it's input. Decoupling capacitors provide a low impedance path for resonate frequency (Xc) noise, which is why we use several sizes of caps. Pull-up & pull-down resistors and series inductors provide extra/boost current for switching that takes place in a device. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On > Behalf Of Vasile Surducan > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 1:41 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [EE] Decoupling capacitors >=20 > "The primary purpose of the decoupling capacitor is to supply the > transient current needed when chip outputs switch from low to high." >=20 > The primary purpose of any decoupling capacitor is to maintain a low > impedance in the supply point of the potential aggressor (switching for > instance). Basically you should know (by measurement) the noise > spectrum on your board and compute the value of the decoupling > capacitor for those particular frequencies. This operation is > difficult, so most people are throwing on the board 100nF placed near > the supply pins of the FPGA, microcontrollers or whatever else. There > are situations which this method does not solve the problem. So the > questions "near the Vcc" or "near the GND" has both (in my opinion) > wrong answers. You need low impedance which should be created by > generous traces thickness or better GND and VCC planes. >=20 >=20 > On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Dave Tweed wrote: >=20 > > David C Brown wrote: > > > On a board without power planes and using chips with GND and Vcc on > > > opposite corners is it best to place the decoupling capacitor > > > nearest the GND pin or nearest the Vcc pn? > > > > Nearest the Vcc pin. > > > > The primary purpose of the decoupling capacitor is to supply the > > transient current needed when chip outputs switch from low to high. > > The path for this current is from the Vcc pin of the driving chip, > > through the high-side transistor, through the PCB trace to the > load(s) > > and then to ground. So in order to be most effective, the inductance > > (and trace length) between the capacitor and the Vcc pin needs to be > as small as possible. > > > > If you don't have a ground plane, you might think you have a similar > > situation ond the Gnd pin with respect to high-to-low transitions; > the > > pull-down current needs a low-impedance path, too. But the situation > > is not symmetrical; the return path for this current is through > > ground, too, so you're still at the mercy of the overall impedance of > > the ground network between the chips in question. > > > > In other words, make your ground network as beefy as possible, then > be > > liberal with the decoupling caps on the Vcc pins. > > > > -- Dave Tweed > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .