Bob - I re-discovered NTVDM in-line with my VPC/W8 experiment, so did'nt pursue the VPC angles, but did turn up a link which proposed a method to sidestep W8s refusal to install it. I probably bookmarked it - If it turns up I'll post it ... --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .