> Effectively you are (AIUI) building a separate machine I keep a 98 machine, wouldn't worry me to keep this PC as an XP machine, and build a new PC for 8. Not sure now if I want or need to go to the extra expense of 8.1 Dropped into DSE today, they aren't selling either 7 or Vista, and it's not immediately apparent at Microsoft's store. If you buy 7 off of eg Trademe, it's only $30 less than MS are specialling 8. The prices are close enough to keep me undecided I have simple needs as far as s/w goes. Much of it has been on this machine for many many years. MPLAB, graphics program, Nero, Cute FTP, various utilities, pretty basic stuff. Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .