Joe McCauley wrote: > I'm seeing that on their website for US$41.90. How long ago did you buy i= t? Sure Electronics regularly charge more for product on their own website=20 compared with when they sell the same product on eBay. Go figure :) On the topic of Chinese PICkit 3 clones, eBay has become significantly=20 more expensive of late. Many of the clones being offered are sourced=20 from Alibaba and AliExpress (Alibaba's eBay equivalent). For example, PICkit 3's can be had for under $US 20 including delivery.=20 I bought this one: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/pickit3-PIC-programmer-pickit-3-PIC-emulator= -debugger-KIT3-stronger-than-ICD2-KIT2-steady/1295438163.html which I've used (as a hobbyist) with PIC32s and PIC18Fs for 7 months=20 without issue. TREV. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .