The "official" PICKIT3 from MC never worked for me. I have an ICD3 that=20 works fine, but I need a backup. I decided to buy a pickit3 clone from SURE ELECTRONICS in China, on EBAY. I only paid $29 USD, and it arrived in 6 days, shipped to my PO box. On=20 my windoze XP Dell Optiplex, the unit runs flawlessly under MPLAB 8.92.=20 Comes with minimum cabling, and looks identical to the original except=20 that the case is black. Lookin' to help folks save money, I am -- --Bob Axtell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .