We had a horrible experience with Paypal before EBAY bought them; an=20
online predator had convinced PP that my wife had failed to ship a=20
laptop he had "bought". In fact, she'd never sold anything on EBAY, and=20
never has since, but PP took $1450 straight from our BANK, not our PP=20
account! It took us 10 days, and threats of a criminal complaint before=20
they refunded our money.  The police department said, at that time, that=20
PP had a "number" of complaints
from other Arizona citizens, and commented that we should "use a real=20
bank instead", and we did for two years, Finally, I re-opened the PP=20
account using only a limited credit card, no bank account, and have had=20
no problems since.

I suspect that EBAY made PP clean up their act when they bought PP.

--Bob A

On 5/7/2014 4:02 AM, RussellMc wrote:
> On 7 May 2014 20:22, Bob Axtell <engineer@cotse.net> wrote:
>
>> 95% of my non-rent purchases are online, and this never happened to me,
>> EVER.
>>
>>> They do say I can wire them money, which seems to me to be less secure
> form
>
>>>> my point of view.
> They may be trying to make it hard to do via someone else's system.
> Assuming money means eg Western Union then wiring them money is VERY secu=
re
> for them if it works and your problem if it doesn't.
> "Wired" transactions are irrevocable come what may.
> Bad goods or wrong destination are not a reason to expect uyour money bac=
k.
>
> With VISA there is a reasonably good "get your money back" provision.
> If you can convince VISA that the contract was not properly satisfied by
> the other party, or perhaps even if you just certify it is so, then they
> can reverse the transaction. I have done this once in the case of a fraud
> where I expected to lose my $ but didn't.
>
> At one stage PayPal vanished accounts with $ in that they deemed to have
> been inactive too long. One of them was mine. After a class action suit,
> which I had no involvement in, I was pleasantly surprised to find that my
> account and $ had reappeared. The amount was not vast - somewhere under
> $100, but it was a shock to have any company do something like that.
> I still use PayPal once in two blue moons when sellers demand it but the
> experience soured my liking for them.
>
>
>             Russell
>
>

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